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gains3000
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Wanted to hear your thoughts on this excerpt from a book on steroids. Long Post Below.

The next thing you have to know about HGH is that if you are not using pharmaceutical grade growth hormone such as Genotropin, Norditropin, Saizen, Serostim etc. then you are wasting your money. The only effective growth hormone is human pharmaceutical grade growth hormone meant to be sold in a pharmacy. Everything else is bullshit. The reason Generic HGH cannot compare to pharmaceutical grade is that growth hormone is made through recombinant DNA technology where special Ecoli bacteria is genetically engineered and given strands of modified Virus derived DNA to produce human growth hormone. This process cannot be replicated by laymen. There are only a few facilities in the world capable of producing high quality 100% legitimate HGH, and these facilities are used exclusively for the production of human pharmaceutical grade growth hormone. Many people talk about ‘generic’ growth hormone and talk about blue tops, grey tops, black tops etc. All of that stuff is garbage and a far, far, far cry from the real thing. Now, you may have used some generic growth hormone that gave you some results or had friends you watched use generic HGH and they got pretty good results. That’s not impossible, I’ve experimented with generic HGH too. So, what is in those generic HGH bottles that gives some physique improving benefits? The answer is no one knows, it may be peptides, it may be a host of other things, generic human growth hormone is produced unregulated in china.
You don’t only need access to the facilities to produce growth hormone properly,
You also need access to highly specialized professional chemists to produce it. There are only a handful of facilities with the necessary Recombinant DNA technology equipment and the specialized highly trained chemists to produce true human growth hormone. These facilities are being used and staffed by big pharmaceutical companies that are selling their products for billions of dollars on the world stage, not by some Rat Prick drug dealer in India or China who produces steroids in his basement, or even at a professional underground production facility. The best way to describe the difference between using pharmaceutical grade growth hormone versus using generics is to compare having sex with a hot ass woman with and without a condom. If you have sex with the condom on, you just won’t be having anywhere near the same experience that the person who gets laid with her with no condom is experiencing.
I’m telling you all this stuff and giving all these examples because I’m really trying to help you here. If you use generics you are playing the drug dealers’ game. They will always jump on people like me who tell you the truth. They do this to protect their market and financial interests in selling you cheap trash. They will say that I’m a liar, don’t know what I’m talking about etc. but the fact of the matter is that I have no incentive but to tell you the truth. I’m not biased, and I’m telling you the EXACT same thing that a guru who coaches top bodybuilders on the Olympia stage would tell his athletes. It’s really unfortunate and shameful that the bodybuilding and fitness industry and Pro Sports is run on lies and deception.
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Bumpygooch
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@gains3000 Dan the BB from Thailand?
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gains3000
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@Bumpygooch Yup!
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MiniFridge
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Part of me agrees, but I’ve heard Broderick Chavez mention that in the last few years China has been able to produce HGH that rivals the quality of pharma. Until I’m a millionaire I’m buying generics from The Provider.
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Bumpygooch
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So, I’m doing something of a comparison between the 2 over the next couple months. Had rotator cuff along with labrum repair surgery this past monday. Starting with 3iu/day Zomacton for a month, then 40 days of a generic from a source on another board, then 4O days of genotropin bought from TSG, then 40 days goodlyfe, then 40 days TSG blue tops. Is pretty much strictly for post op recovery, although I’ll be running it so long, I should be back in the gym by the end. I could provide some results here as I go along, if there’s any interest.
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fatliftingdude
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Jan 8, 2021
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I haven’t gotten different results from using Pfizer vs generic black tops from Dragon. Only difference is my wallet isn’t crying if I go on Dragon’s stuff.
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jef9786
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@Bumpygooch I know it’s on a case per case basis, long term use, not magic, but if a generic is as good as pharma gh, I assume there’s not much difference in the fat burning capability of either? I ask Bc I hear some people on generics talk about excess water retention and bloat, now I know this is a common effect of gh, but is it any MORE with a generic??
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DragonOrdnance
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This is a meme. GH doesn’t take a “multi millionaire dollar lab.”

Perhaps a few years ago. Now any retard with a manufacturing candy license in China and 200k spare change can make good quality growth hormone.

Whats in it? Growth hormone 191, obviously. The tests wouldn’t lie. I have no reason to shill here because I sell both pharma and generic hgh and I profit off both equally, so I have no problem saying this. But the truth of the matter is that at this point in time, growth hormone has catched up to pharma in ways I didn’t expect it to. Resulting in me even switching from my geno pens to my blacktops simply because of the testing results, consistently.

The problem here isnt making good growth hormone. Its making it good CONSISTENTLY.

And when we talk about the meme that “all the bbs do pharma”, in my experience, I’ve seen plenty pro cards do some generic, offbrand shit I’ve never even heard of. GH can be expensive.
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gains3000
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@DragonOrdnance Appreciate your insight Dragon! I did not post this to disrespect any source or manufacturer, I just wanted to hear people’s opinions. Thanks.
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hypeofbeauty1
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Does anyone know of a good beginners guideline to GH out there on the web?
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DragonOrdnance
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@hypeofbeauty1 Believe /r/steroids has a few good compound threads. Theres really no guidelines, just split your dosage or take it all one shot in the morning and don’t eat for a good hour or two. I like to take it pre-morning fasted cardio. 5 days on 2 days off , if needed to budget, or everyday. I’ve seen people get good results on igf levels with 5/2 so im sure you’re okay with that.
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SixFourLambda
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A lot of people, myself included, have taken generics and then gotten blood tests. If the generics are fake, then how did all that hgh get into my blood?
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MikeAlstott
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@DragonOrdnance How long before fasted cardio do you pin your GH or does it matter?
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Bumpygooch
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@MikeAlstott anecdotally, I’ve read get it done within 3 hours of injection. Even if it’s not exactly accurate, seems like a decent timeline. I’ll take 3iu, take yohimbine with caffeine, drink my couple cups of coffee and jump on the bike within 2 hours.
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MikeAlstott
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@Bumpygooch Cool, thanks, that makes sense. Is there a recommended minimum time to wait after injection?
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Flex_Luger
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I’ve read that it’s fine to eat anytime after, it’s just not “optimal” if your pinning and eating immediately after especially for fat loss. I try not to overcomplicate things, if I have to pin and eat I will, if I have time I’ll wait to eat.
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DragonOrdnance
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@MikeAlstott I just pin and go run after like 20 minutes
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Goopatroopa
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@DragonOrdnance Do you offer any type of bulk discount rate for ordering the Turkish pharma HGH
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DragonOrdnance
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@Goopatroopa Depending on the quantity. email us and i’d be happy to help.
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