Most dont know but he also was a pretty dang good softball player. He of course could knock the crap out of the ball if he made contact. I played a tournament against him & his team out of Tennessee once. I played 3rd base at the time & always play 6-8 in front of the bag, but with him I played 6-8 in the grass behind the bag, lol. Only two guys I ever had to do that against, lol.